Copernic Desktop Search 1.5 has been released

Copernic Desktop Search has had its version 1.5 released. I’ve had a look at it to see if maybe some of my suggestions from my article What I’d like to see in Copernic Desktop Search have made it into the final version. Unfortunately, there’s doesn’t seem to be any information on changes that have been made since the beta version, so it’s easy to miss something. Dear Copernic guys, maybe you could publish some more information on changes you make during development cycles?

Good news

CDS can now index offline mail and news folders for Thunderbird. Not so good news is, it’s incredibly slow… like one article a second, or even less than that (and these are newsgroup postings, very short in average and 99% without attachments). As the Index status window shows, the status jumps back to “email indexing complete” between every two articles, I guess that’s probably not correct anyway. I thought I was going to index some of my mail folders with this feature, but those are usually around 10000 messages each, so maybe that’ll have to wait for now.

An issue I found is that for each of my IMAP accounts, two separate INBOX hierarchies are shown. Obviously there’s only one such hierarchy in reality, no idea where the other comes from. There doesn’t seem to be any difference in the folders underneath the two. Here’s what this looks like:

Bad news

A much worse problem is that the offline folder email indexing doesn’t seem to work at all. I tested this twice, once with an offline newsgroup folder, then with an offline IMAP folder. (BTW, if larger configuration changes are made, it’s always a good idea to restart CDS. More than once it happened to me that after I had removed a folder from the current email indexing configuration, CDS still continued indexing it, until I restarted it.) In both cases, CDS wasn’t able to show me the correct content of indexed entries! I just tried selecting individual entries in the “All Emails” view to see their content in the preview. This didn’t really work at all… I’m sounding cautious because the behaviour was so funny: CDS would always show me content of one email in the list, but it would show that same content regardless of my current selection. I didn’t even get the impression that this content really belonged to one of the emails I actually clicked on. Every once in a while, when I repeatedly changed selection, the content would change, too, only to stay the same again for the next 30 (or so) clicks.

More bad news

None of my other suggestions have been taken up be the developers. Not so nice… especially since I can’t imagine some of them to be that far out, or that difficult to implement, like the suggestion to enable indexing of browser-related information for more than one browser at the same time.

Even more bad news

As Marc Orchant and James Kendrick have been reporting in recent blog articles (this is Marc’s and this is James’s), there are serious issues running CDS on TabletPCs. I have one of those myself, so I’m really interested in this, and Copernic doesn’t seem to show any interest in solving these issues. Maybe it would be useful if more TabletPC users contacted Copernic and told them that this is important to us.


Well, I don’t like it too much. Copernic have managed to introduce a few serious bugs in CDS since the beta and they haven’t taken up much that was suggested at that time. My C# custom extractor for CDS still runs, but they haven’t done anything to extend the shortcomings of the extension API, for example with previewers or the ability to influence the scanning process itself. Obviously, CDS is free software, but it wouldn’t have to be if you ask me. Actually, I have three licensed programs by Copernic and none of them is being as actively developed as CDS is. Maybe Copernic would do good to listen to their users, to better coordinate their development and test cycles and for a product that may still be leading in a very competitive market… but they don’t have too much time to make the right decision here.

6 Comments on Copernic Desktop Search 1.5 has been released

  1. And there’s even newer information: David Burns (Copernic CEO, apparently) has commented on James’s post today, saying they got the message and they’re going to look into TabletPC support ASAP. Good news again!


  2. And the story goes on, with this post by Marc Orchant. Interestingly, while David Burns talks about buying a TabletPC today, Martin Bouchard claims to have already done so two days ago.


  3. Oliver – I’ve heard from Martin Bouchard a couple of times today. Apparently he and David Burns each took matters into their own hands based on the posts James and I made (as well as other factors, I’m sure). So they now apparently have two Tablets in house. I also received a notice from their VP of Technology that they believe they have isolated the cause of the flickering TIP and should have a fix ready for testing soon.No software is perfect (as I know you know). When a company steps up to the plate as Copernic has in the past couple of days, they should be commended for understanding the importance of listening to their customers and making something happen. I agree with the issues related to offline IMAP folders – it’s been a huge issue for me too and not just with CDS. x1/Yahoo and MSN Toolbar Suite also have big-time problems with IMAP.The best solution I’ve found for now is to use Lookout in Outlook to search my IMAP mail and another tool (currently MSN) to search the file system. It’s a kludge and I hate having to have two indexing engines running but it works… for now. Sooner or later someone will get this right and that will be the tool I use.


  4. Marc, thanks for clarifying things. I agree about commending Copernic for listening… I’ll just wait and see about the “making something happen” part. At the moment, I get the impression there are a few organisational issues on their side. Giving out a beta was a nice idea, but you have to listen to users at that moment and fix problems before calling it final. And every developer will tell you that between prerelease and final version is not the right place to stick in new features.On the positive side, I do get the feeling they want to make things work maybe a little differently from their other products, where there was never any active community or any open discussion, as far as I can remember. I’ll try the idea with Lookout. Problem is, desktop searching is really about the comfort of having to use just one tool to do the complete task, isn’t it?


  5. And again, there’s more information in James’s new post. Apparently the TabletPC problem with the flickering TIP is now fixed already and the next release will have that fix.


  6. The Copernic search of 2009 isn´t that bad at all! BUT for me its a little bit to expensive, because of that I searched for another tool, which is as relibale, fast and serious as Copernic or Lookout! For me know e-mail life wihout Lookeen ( is unbelievable, and the price is fair too!


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